. >> greta: government. but theoretically government gives services, entitlements or jobs to people and someone is going to feel the pain. >> we spend 115 billion dollars each and every year according to the generally accountability office to people who aren't supposed to get the money. >> greta: and i was going to get to waste and fraud. >> 49 different job training programs spread across nine different government agencies. government's going to have to learn to do more with less and how to be more efficient. it's not government's money, it's the people's money and our children's money because we're borrowing from the next generation to pay for this. >> greta: i was going to ask you about waste and fraud, i don't know if you know it on capitol hill, a number of staffers who owe taxes. >> staffers and people from the irs and other-- >> and what effort is being made? i know some bills have been introduced to do something about the tremendous amount of waste in government, whether it's empty buildings, people